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16 April 2007

12 am Eastern

Band Madness: Round 5

It’s the last day to vote in Round 5! Who will advance to the Sweet Sixteen? Can The Ramones stop the AFI juggernaut? What the hell happened to Radiohead?? All these questions must be answered by five o’clock today! Vote!!!

Oh, wait, it’s after 5? I hope nobody used the last 45 minutes to their advantage! Of course, you know, we’d have to disqualify those votes, right?

Radiohead vs. Queen

Total Votes: 5507

Jimi Hendrix vs. Stevie Wonder

Total Votes: 4967

David Bowie vs. Smashing Pumpkins

Total Votes: 5193

Depeche Mode vs. Beastie Boys

Total Votes: 5187

Beatles vs. Red Hot Chili Peppers

Total Votes: 5437

The Cure vs. Pearl Jam

Total Votes: 5556

Nirvana vs. Beach Boys

Total Votes: 5358

Rolling Stones vs. John Lennon (solo)

Total Votes: 4991

Led Zeppelin vs. Metallica

Total Votes: 5166

Johnny Cash vs. Weezer

Total Votes: 4936

The Who vs. Guns n’ Roses

Total Votes: 5328

U2 vs. Eric Clapton

Total Votes: 4955

Pink Floyd vs. R.E.M.

Total Votes: 5008

The Ramones vs. AFI

Total Votes: 6451

The Doors vs. The Police

Total Votes: 4873

Dire Straits vs. Dave Matthews Band

Total Votes: 4740

409 responses so far

  1. WHITEgillis Says:

    AHHHHHHH! Radiohead vs. Queen?! That one was such a painful blow… I believe I went with Radiohead? I can’t be sure; I feel disoriented.

  2. cesare Says:

    Can someone please explain why Eric Clapton is losing to U2?

  3. hayley Says:

    cesare said:

    Can someone please explain why Eric Clapton is losing to U2?

    possibly because U2 is better.

  4. WHITEgillis Says:

    hayley said:

    cesare said:

    Can someone please explain why Eric Clapton is losing to U2?

    possibly because U2 is better.

    If U2 did not admit to using exact time signatures and chord progressions from previous albums to keep the same “sound,” I would agree. I lost a lot of respect for U2 (although I do admit U2 did have some great songs, and Bono is an awesome humanitarian).

  5. hayley Says:

    calling bono a humanitarian is like calling al gore the future of ecological sustainability.

    total crap.

  6. Dan H. Says:

    How is Bono not a humanitarian?

  7. WHITEgillis Says:

    Aww, that’s harsh. He does a hell of a lot more than any other celebrity in his position, so I give the guy credit.

  8. hayley Says:

    Dan H. said:

    How is Bono not a humanitarian?

    when you look at who he is, and what he has the power to do, what he DOES do is not that much.

    he’ll go on a few talk shows, he will support ONE, but other than that, not much.

    he is the quintessential celebrity spokesperson. does more than the average man, because he can, but he can do much much more.

    it’s nothing but political advertising.

  9. hayley Says:

    WHITEgillis said:

    Aww, that’s harsh. He does a hell of a lot more than any other celebrity in his position, so I give the guy credit.

    standing outside of the G8 conference demanding to be let in and speak to the leaders of nations is, to me, much more valuable than doing a few PSA’s and going on Oprah.

  10. hayley Says:

    but i digress.

    i don’t want to have a debate about this.

    i just hate how everyone is all about Bono.

  11. WHITEgillis Says:

    hayley said:

    Dan H. said:

    How is Bono not a humanitarian?

    when you look at who he is, and what he has the power to do, what he DOES do is not that much.

    he’ll go on a few talk shows, he will support ONE, but other than that, not much.

    he is the quintessential celebrity spokesperson. does more than the average man, because he can, but he can do much much more.

    it’s nothing but political advertising.

    Believe me, I completely agree. However, to my knowledge, there has never been a celebrity who has done all that he/she can do, so to the extent that Bono goes, I think he deserves credit. I would love to see a day where a celebrity donates millions upon millions to various organizations and such, but I am weary as to if that will ever happen.

  12. Nate Kushner Says:

    Sundae, yummy sundaaaaaaaeeeee…

  13. hayley Says:

    actually angelina jolie donated 2 million i believe to cambodian orphanages.

    i’m glad it was given to the people, and not the politicians.

  14. WHITEgillis Says:

    hayley said:

    but i digress.

    i don’t want to have a debate about this.

    i just hate how everyone is all about Bono.

    I think we actually both see eye to eye on this so there is no need for debate. I am by no means a huge supporter of Bono; to me, at least he does SOMETHING, even if it isn’t with the best intentions.

  15. hayley Says:

    when i spoke of standing outside of a G8 conference, that was chris martin.

    it does more to go right to the leaders than to the individuals who don’t have the power (ie, the people)

    ok i’m going off on a tirade soon.

    i’m stopping.

  16. Dan H. Says:

    Who is “all about Bono,” Hayley? It just takes an awfully harsh definition of the word for Bono not to qualify as a humanitarian.

  17. Hirsby Says:

    *I recently took a long trip and decided to bring along all my Radiohead albums to listen to on the drive. I hadn’t heard all of them as one in a long time, so I figured it would be a good chance to reacquaint myself with the band. And my god, was it ever boring. The Bends was still good from start to finish, but I was surprised at how poorly OK Computer has aged. Only a few tracks from that one still pack some kick, Kid A was similarly spotty, Amnesiac was brutal and Hail to the Thief was just terrible. As a result, I’m voting for Queen

    * I’m one of the few who voted for Stevie. Oh well.

    * I’m one of the comparatively more few who voted for the Pumpkins. Oh well.

    * Beasties over Depeche Mode. Not really a big fan of either, but the Beasties have more songs I like.

    * Pearl Jam over the Cure. I just like PJ more.

    * Beatles over Chilis. No contest

    * Beach Boys over Nirvana. When that overrated dead dirtbag writes something as wonderful as Wouldn’t It Be Nice, I’ll change my vote.

    * Stones over Lennon. The Stones may be perennially doomed to finish behind the Beatles in the best band ever rankings, but at least they can take them individually.

    * Led Zep over Metallica. No contest

    * Johnny Cash over Weezer. I like them both, but I like Cash more.

    * The Who over Guns and Roses. No contest.

    * Pink Floyd over R.E.M. Close vote, I had to think for a while on this one.

    * U2 over Clapton. No contest. BTW, I’m not sure why it’s such a bad thing that the Edge sometimes replicates chord structures. Doesn’t everyone? And damn, his trademark ’shimmer’ effect is cool enough that he can do it all he wants as long as the song around it is original.

    * The Ramones over AFI. Please, let’s end this here.

    * Police over Doors. No contest. And in a real-life battle, the police kick in doors all the time.

    * DMB over Dire Straits. I loved the DMB concert I attended. I still think it’s bunk that Elton John was knocked out in favour of these two.

  18. WHITEgillis Says:

    hayley said:

    when i spoke of standing outside of a G8 conference, that was chris martin.

    it does more to go right to the leaders than to the individuals who don’t have the power (ie, the people)

    ok i’m going off on a tirade soon.

    i’m stopping.

    Agreed. I did not realize Chris Martin did this; that is phenomenal. Hopefully I will see his face, among other celebrities, at future protests. I could go on forever about how disgusted I am with aspects of politics, so I will hold back.

  19. Hirsby Says:

    Oh man, you didn’t just try to slam Bono by throwing Chris “AppleDaddy” Martin as a more ideal celeb spokesperson, did you? Oh wow, he wrote a slogan on his piano, that’s HARDCORE

  20. WHITEgillis Says:

    And I hope these early votes are not indicating to me that Pearl Jam, U2, and The Doors are going to crush their (substantially better) competition. I may just break down and cry.

  21. hayley Says:

    well, a humanitarian generally will do what they do for the interest of the people, not for record sales or personal profit, Dan. I’m not sure i would say Bono is a humanitarian. He has done some good things, as far as getting the word out. But so has PETA. and they’re retards.

  22. hayley Says:

    Hirsby said:

    Oh man, you didn’t just try to slam Bono by throwing Chris “AppleDaddy” Martin as a more ideal celeb spokesperson, did you? Oh wow, he wrote a slogan on his piano, that’s HARDCORE

    actually when i mentioned him, it was in response to bono because what martin has done is better than what bono has done, in regards to the welfare of the people it pertains to.

  23. hayley Says:

    WHITEgillis said:

    hayley said:

    when i spoke of standing outside of a G8 conference, that was chris martin.

    it does more to go right to the leaders than to the individuals who don’t have the power (ie, the people)

    ok i’m going off on a tirade soon.

    i’m stopping.

    Agreed. I did not realize Chris Martin did this; that is phenomenal. Hopefully I will see his face, among other celebrities, at future protests. I could go on forever about how disgusted I am with aspects of politics, so I will hold back.

    —-

    no, please do so. we could go on for hours about it.

  24. WHITEgillis Says:

    Haha, alrightie then. I primarily focus on animal rights, since unfortunately animals cannot defend themselves and therefore suffer severe consequences. I am vegan (just my personal belief), and I have been researching dog dealing a great deal lately, among other issues. Dog dealing was simply something I was not aware of, but it immediately grabbed my full attention. I am not sure that many people at all know about it, so hopefully this comment will spark some interest in others.

  25. Hirsby Says:

    [quote]standing outside of the G8 conference demanding to be let in and speak to the leaders of nations is, to me, much more valuable than doing a few PSA’s and going on Oprah.[/quote]

    Wait, what? Bono has met virtually every G8 leader in a one on one meeting. He doesn’t need to demand to be let in…he gets an appointment.

  26. hayley Says:

    WHITEgillis said:

    Haha, alrightie then. I primarily focus on animal rights, since unfortunately animals cannot defend themselves and therefore suffer severe consequences. I am vegan (just my personal belief), and I have been researching dog dealing a great deal lately, among other issues. Dog dealing was simply something I was not aware of, but it immediately grabbed my full attention. I am not sure that many people at all know about it, so hopefully this comment will spark some interest in others.

    dog dealing in what context? research, food, fur? or all?

  27. hayley Says:

    Hirsby, that’s the problem.

    he gets an appointment.

    inherently, social change does not come at the drop of a hat by those who just say it should.

    it takes movements, and often illegal and radical acts to provoke it.

    just the very fact that he can walk in and speak with someone makes me wonder.

  28. WHITEgillis Says:

    All of the above. I mainly read about cases involving dogs for research though, so it seems to be the most common reason for dog dealing, at least in the United States. Everything about the “business” is deplorable, and it makes me sick to see how long it takes some federal cases against Class B dog dealers (and the like) to go into play; the fact that the gov’t. takes so long to act in such situations is one of my biggest pet peeves by far.

  29. hayley Says:

    people need to look at the motives behind certain acts, the reasons behind it.

    urging people to buy a red ipod because $15 of the purchase will go to AIDS research just doesn’t cut it.

    there’s so much more underneath it all.

    i’m not really sure this is a conversation to continue.

  30. hayley Says:

    WHITEgillis said:

    All of the above. I mainly read about cases involving dogs for research though, so it seems to be the most common reason for dog dealing, at least in the United States. Everything about the “business” is deplorable, and it makes me sick to see how long it takes some federal cases against Class B dog dealers (and the like) to go into play; the fact that the gov’t. takes so long to act in such situations is one of my biggest pet peeves by far.

    do you mean both by mills and by pound seizure?

    the government won’t act on it. because it would drop profits of the drug companies. and the politicians all have shares in the drug companies.

    the best way to combat those issues is to lobby for property status of animals to be revoked entirely, animal enterprise or not. and we won’t see it in our lifetime.

  31. Hirsby Says:

    Well, if it doesn’t continue, then let me end by saying three cheers to Bono for all his recent charity work! Jeers to this rusty tailgate!

    Anyway, I voted for U2 not because of Bono’s charity work, but because he’s an awesome singer. And Edge is a great guitarist. And Adam Clayton and Larry Mullen are a very good rhythm section. And they’re all good songwriters (U2 credits everyone, so nobody really knows who writes what).

  32. hayley Says:

    i should clarify that i am aware that only a modest percentage of research revolves around drugs and more is for household and cosmetic purposes.

    but to come down on the dealers for research purposes would set a precedence for ALL testing, and that isn’t something they’re going to mess around with, you know, considering that AR “extremists” are the “number one terrorist thread in America” and all.

  33. achtungx Says:

    Count myself as a U2 fan who gets very uncomfortable and winces when Bono assumes his perch as secular pope. That being said:

    If there was no U2, then there would be no U2-Wanabee band known as Coldplay. If not for Bono, Chris “Mini-Bono” Martin would never have thought it was cool to try to save the world.

    If Bono focuses on a cause, he can open doors and use his star power to actually accomplish something positive. Getting rich countries to drop millions of dollars in debt is no small feat. He’s a major pain in the ass, he knows it, and uses that to the best of his ability. What has Mr. Martin accomplished? He stands outside a G8 summit because nobody in positions of power know who he is, nor do they give a fuck who he is, and would never let him inside. He is just “some actress’s husband who is in a band or something.” Chris Martin has no credibility musically or socially, and for fuck’s sake he never will.

    Maybe I’m biased, maybe I just hate Chris Martin, maybe I just hate Coldplay, and maybe I love U2 - regardless of whether I think Bono can be a pompous asshole. Could be all of the above.

    By the way hayley, Depeche Mode Rules!

  34. Dan H. Says:

    Hirsby, while I do not agree that Edge is a great guitarist - I do like U2, but I would not have him in a top 100 guitarists list - I do agree with your Simpsons reference more.

  35. WHITEgillis Says:

    hayley said:

    WHITEgillis said:

    All of the above. I mainly read about cases involving dogs for research though, so it seems to be the most common reason for dog dealing, at least in the United States. Everything about the “business” is deplorable, and it makes me sick to see how long it takes some federal cases against Class B dog dealers (and the like) to go into play; the fact that the gov’t. takes so long to act in such situations is one of my biggest pet peeves by far.

    do you mean both by mills and by pound seizure?

    the government won’t act on it. because it would drop profits of the drug companies. and the politicians all have shares in the drug companies.

    the best way to combat those issues is to lobby for property status of animals to be revoked entirely, animal enterprise or not. and we won’t see it in our lifetime.

    Yes, I am referring to both, and I am all too aware of the crooked politics behind the situation. I was referencing specifically cases in which holding conditions are deplorable, severe abuse/radical killing is apparent, etc. and yet when these cases against the conditions are brought to trial, it literally takes years upon years of “investigation” before there are any fines set in place, licenses revoked, or even total shutdown of facilities. I know that I will never see the elimination of every one of the dog dealing facilities entirely, but certainly any efforts I can make against them is better than nothing.

  36. hayley Says:

    dropping debt doesn’t actually do much for the nations, believe it or not.

    all it does is tie them to other nations for import and export.

    improving their economy, although it was tested with a few major methods and failed, each after 40 or so years of success, is a better option.

  37. WHITEgillis Says:

    hayley said:

    i should clarify that i am aware that only a modest percentage of research revolves around drugs and more is for household and cosmetic purposes.

    but to come down on the dealers for research purposes would set a precedence for ALL testing, and that isn’t something they’re going to mess around with, you know, considering that AR “extremists” are the “number one terrorist thread in America” and all.

    Very true. Ah, the intricate interweavings of politics… blech! (Is interweavings a word? Probably not, but I like it).

  38. hayley Says:

    yeah. all i’m saying is that in the end, radical abuse or not, those people will get away with it entirely, simply because those dogs are their “property”. also, thanks to the patriot act and the animal enterprise act, it will be much, much tougher to implement any legislation to deal with those individuals.

  39. hayley Says:

    jesus christ i just realized i typed “thread” not “threat”. sorry.

  40. WHITEgillis Says:

    Yes, I definitely like to keep up with the passing of legislation, even though I know many animals will always have some sort of law limiting their rights. I am actually heading off to bed, but I am glad to see I can have political conversation with someone here. Have a good one, everyone.

  41. whit Says:

    it hurts me to see the chili peppers losing. i really love this band. but im not shocked to see them losing.
    im really tired of hearing that nirvana is overrated. im not saying that they arent overrated. unplugged is one of my favorite cds.

    AFI is my favorite band. they are still the best live show ive seen. im not a huge fan of their last album. they more upbeat than people give them credit for.

  42. achtungx Says:

    Hmmm…choices…choices…choices…

    Queen over Radiohead - not difficult for me Freddie Mercury was a genius, and Brian May, one hell of a guitarist. Queen’s 70’s albums have aged beautifully (though their 80s stuff hasn’t)

    Hendrix over Stevie - Two great artists, but my vote goes to the guitarist who flipped off a crowd of Monkees fans when they booed him as an opening act.

    Bowie over Pumpkins - Greatest Song Ever in “The Laughing Gnome” :)

    Depeche Mode over Beastie Boys - DM, baby!!!

    Beatles over RHCP - no contest

    The Cure over Pearl Jam - personal preference

    Beach Boys over Nirvana - tough choice, but I’ll take rich harmonies over Pixies-esque modern rock

    Lennon over the Stones - My favorite songwriter vs. a band whose music 60s to early 80s is some of the best. Hard choice.

    Zeppelin over Metallica - No contest

    Man in Black over Weezer - Cash is a God

    The Who over GnR - Wow…gotta go with the Who

    U2 over Clapton

    REM over Floyd - alternative jangle pop vs. pretentious FM radio mainstays

    Ramones over AFI - maybe this will be the deathblow

    The Police over the Doors - tough call, Doors are overrated though.

    Dire Straits over DMB - some catchy stuff by DS… DM’s voice is annoying.

  43. tarotraven Says:

    hayley said:

    well, a humanitarian generally will do what they do for the interest of the people, not for record sales or personal profit, Dan. I’m not sure i would say Bono is a humanitarian. He has done some good things, as far as getting the word out. But so has PETA. and they’re retards.

    Wow, I can’t believe you dissed Bono, Al Gore and PETA….besides AFI, these three are my all time heroes, and I’m not kidding.

    Bono: He isn’t perfect, no one is. But he has done a lot of good in the world, and even was nominated for the 2005 Nobel Peace Prize (or are the people who nominate “retards” too?) He was also Time’s Man of the Year in 2005 along with Bill and Melissa Gates. I could list all of the things he has done, but you all can google that. Basically though, there are so many celebs that could do good, and just don’t. Bono is one of the good guys and definitely fits the definition of humanitarian.

    Al Gore: This year Al Gore has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. His movie “An Inconvenient Truth” has raised awareness for Global Warming, and all proceeds have gone to further that effort. He is also the one putting on Live Earth concert which will be held on 7/7/07, similar to Live Aid and will be all over the world simulataneously, with a myriad of bands and musicians such as Madonna, AFI, Bon Jovi, Smashing Pumpkins…so many - google it) Another good guy. (oh yeah, and he also should have been president…then we wouldn’t be in this mess we are in with Bush basically ruining our country) And..furthermore if it wasn’t for Gore you may not be using the internet right now..and before you all freak, yes, it was Gore who fought for the people to have use of the internet and not just the government.”According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who’s been called the Father of the Internet, “The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator.”

    PETA: Of course PETA is controversial, however they have done way more good then bad. With out PETA the animal rights movement would be nowhere near where it is today. Sure they use questionable tactics sometimes, but they get their point across and raise awareness. Desperate times call for desperate measures (w/o violence). Personally I work for PETA2, which tries to raise awareness in college and high school kids. Many amazing bands support PETA as well, like Anti-Flag, Trent Reznor, Simple Plan, Paul McCartney, Morrissey, David Gilmour, Beastie Boys, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, Tiger Army, Rise Against, Moby, Joss Stone, Nine Inch Nails, Maroon 5, Good Charlotte, Joan Jett and so many more. PETA is necessary, and hopefully some day there will be animal liberation.

  44. Darren Says:

    “when i spoke of standing outside of a G8 conference, that was chris martin.

    it does more to go right to the leaders than to the individuals who don’t have the power (ie, the people)

    ok i’m going off on a tirade soon.

    i’m stopping.”

    Is there anything that Chris Martin WON’T do that Bono’s already done? I think the reason Chris stood outside of G8 instead of Bono is that they’ll actually let Bono in the door if he shows up…

  45. hayley Says:

    tarotravern, please don’t start quoting peter singer.

    all peta does is welfarist corporate garbage.

    they have done more harm than good for the movement, and more intelligent AR individuals I know agree than disagree with that statement.

    They have eroticized a cause, they have degenerated one movement to further another. this is NEVER necessary.

    as for “desperate times” PETA does nothing but back the ALF. I would have more respect if they did MORE than back the ALF.

    I could care less which bands support them.

  46. hayley Says:

    Darren, THAT IS THE PROBLEM

    it is POLITICS

    social cause DOES NOT HAPPEN BY APPOINTMENT. IT NEVER HAS.

  47. hayley Says:

    tarotravern, if you want a hero within the AR movement, I recommend Gary Francione.

    see what he has to say about PETA.

  48. hayley Says:

    yeah, what a hero.

    wish he would take his own advice.

    wow.

  49. hayley Says:

    i’m also going to reiterate here that as far as I am aware of, what Bono has worked towards was lowering developing nations’ deficits. again. not the best way. quite counter productive actually.

  50. aerodrome Says:

    In lieu of joining in on the political discussion here, I would just like to say that I love The Who more than life itself.

    Well, more than your life.

  51. wilcofan Says:

    Radiohead-Queen: What the fuck? If Radiohead doesn’t get past Queen, I just might have to resort voting for AFI.

    Hendrix-Stevie: Well at least we’re gonna have one black guy in the sweet sixteen. And his name will be Jimi.

    Bowie-Pumpkins: Give me Bowie any day over the incessent drone of the Pumpkins.

    Depeche Mode-Beastie Boys: The Beastie Boys shouldn”t have made it this far. The official death of rap in BM.

    Beatles-RHCP: Beatles for me. I can actually understand the reasoning of someone who wants to vote for the Peppers though.

    The Cure-Pearl Jam: I’d rather feel sad than in pain over Vedder’s voice. The Cure.

    Nirvana-Beach Boys: I like Nirvana but the Beach Boys makes much better music.

    Rolling Stones-Lennon: Tough call, Stones win for me.

    Zeppelin-Metallica: Zeppelin. Next matchup.

    Johnny Cash-Weezer: Weezer’s last two albums suck and Johnny Cash wrote really damn good songs.

    The Who-GNR: two reasons why I voted for The Who: 1)I hate GNR and 2)The Who are awesome

    U2-Clapton: What has clapton done SOLO that even comes close to U2? From Boy to How to Dismantle an Atomic Bomb, they are a solid rock band. (and does anyone else find it funny that Clapton outlasted Cream?)

    Pink Floyd-R.E.M. Pink Floyd by a mile.

    The Ramones-AFI: One guess. (and if one of you guess AFI…)

    The Doors-Police: How did the Doors get past Dylan? Doesn’t matter I guess. The Police.

    Dire Straights-DMB: Who knew one of these two bands were one of the to sixteen of all time? Well top seventeen, if you count NIN. Dire Straights. Barely

  52. hayley Says:

    i agree with every single statement, wilcofan.

  53. wilcofan Says:

    hayley said:

    i agree with every single statement, wilcofan.

    That’s weird. Maybe we’re actually long lost twins, like Luke an Leia.

  54. wilcofan Says:

    dammit. *and*

  55. hayley Says:

    it s a possbility.

    i write an exam in an hour and a half.

    wish me luck. blech.

  56. Nate Kushner Says:

    wilcofan said:

    hayley said:

    i agree with every single statement, wilcofan.

    That’s weird. Maybe we’re actually long lost twins, like Luke an Leia.

    _______________

    Oooh, they’re gonna make out!

  57. oldchick Says:

    AFI over The Ramones???
    The Doors over The Police????????????

    What happened last night while I was asleep, did the world get sucked into another dimension where crap bands are better than two of the best bands in the world??

    I want to go back to sleep, and never wake up…

  58. wilcofan Says:

    Good luck to you. And more importantly, to Radiohead.

  59. hayley Says:

    i have no worries about radiohead.

  60. Cubicle Captive Says:

    WHITEgillis said:

    Haha, alrightie then. I primarily focus on animal rights, since unfortunately animals cannot defend themselves and therefore suffer severe consequences. I am vegan (just my personal belief), and I have been researching dog dealing a great deal lately, among other issues. Dog dealing was simply something I was not aware of, but it immediately grabbed my full attention. I am not sure that many people at all know about it, so hopefully this comment will spark some interest in others.

    What about their sharp, pointy teeth and sharp pointy claws? Try going to the Sarenghetti and telling a pride of lions that you’re trying to protect them because their defenseless.

    I know what you’re trying to say, I’m just making with the funny. Or trying to make with the funny. I need coffee.

  61. hayley Says:

    Serengeti.

    technically they are defenseless.

    nothing compares to guns and humans and ecological anarchy.

    i know you were being funny.

  62. yardang Says:

    oldchick said:

    AFI over The Ramones???
    The Doors over The Police????????????

    What happened last night while I was asleep, did the world get sucked into another dimension where crap bands are better than two of the best bands in the world??

    I want to go back to sleep, and never wake up…

    evidently you’ve been sucked into my world. chalk one up for both the doors and afi from me.
    although i will say these were the two most difficult matchups for me (all four are in my all time top 10). the other tough one for me was dire straits vs. DMB. that just came down to the one who annoys me less - dire straits.

  63. Cubicle Captive Says:

    hayley said:

    Serengeti.

    technically they are defenseless.

    nothing compares to guns and humans and ecological anarchy.

    i know you were being funny.

    Oh no, I was talking about the Saranghetti: the African savannah made up entirely of Saran wrap and spaghetti.

    Easy mistake to make, don’t worry about it.

  64. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Okay, here’s my two cents:

    Queen over Radiohead: My dislike for Thom Yorke and Co. is well documented. But besides that, I really enjoy Queen’s music.

    Hendrix over Wonder: This was hard for me, but I went with Jimi just for the sheer genius of his guitar skills.

    Bowie over Pumpkins: To the 234 people who voted Pumpkins, you’re out of your minds. Bowie is AWESOME.

    Depeche Mode over the Beastie Boys: You’re welcome Hayley. Seriously though, I can’t vote for anyone who took out Skynyrd.

    Beatles over Chili Peppers: Hardest matchup for the Beatles so far, but that’s not saying much.

    The Cure over Pearl Jam: Better songs, better sound for the Cure. Plus I think The Cure’s songs have aged better than PJ.

    Beach Boys over Nirvana: This is Happy v. Sad! Light v. Dark! Talent v. hackery! No contest.

    Stones over Lennon: I never understood what people see in Lennon’s solo work. Whatever, he’s gone after this.

    Zeppelin over Metallica: I love Metallica, but Zeppelin did everything they did first, and they did it better.

    Johnny Cash over Weezer: Why is Weezer still around?? I get that they beat Nugent, Thin Lizzy and Steely Dan. But they NEVER should have beaten Van Halen.

    The Who over Guns N Roses: Hardest matchup of this round, but I went with the songs I can listen to all the time over the songs I really like, but only if I’m in the right mood.

    Clapton over U2: If this was Cream, I’d have voted U2. But Clapton’s solo work is better than any of the bands he was in. And celebrity is not a requirement or a shortcut to being a humanitarian. You have to actually work, not talk to people who just want to meet you cause you’re cool.

    REM over Pink Floyd: Not a fan of Pink Floyd.

    Ramones over AFI: No contest.

    Police over the Doors: I like the comment about in real life, Police kick in Doors all the time.

    Dire Straits over DMB: Just a matter of taste.

  65. Dan H. Says:

    I can’t believe one of The Doors, The Police, Dire Straits, and DMB is going to be in the Elite Eight. I guess I’m actually pulling for DMB.

  66. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Dan H. said:

    I can’t believe one of The Doors, The Police, Dire Straits, and DMB is going to be in the Elite Eight. I guess I’m actually pulling for DMB.

    Blasphemy. The Police are the best of that group, hands down.

  67. yayfi Says:

    goddamnit. I have to make another one of those stupid banners.

  68. wilcofan Says:

    Just looking ahead a bit. Next round will probably be Bowie vs. Depeche Mode. That’s an epic matchup.

  69. hayley Says:

    wilcofan said:

    Just looking ahead a bit. Next round will probably be Bowie vs. Depeche Mode. That’s an epic matchup.

    i think that will be another rematch.

    someone correct me if i am wrong.

  70. Nate Kushner Says:

    So who here has listened to a Queen album ever?

    Follow-up question: Who here has listened to a Queen album in a year that was not 1992?

  71. Nate Kushner Says:

    Follow up to the followup: In 1992, did any of you guys have that phenomenon at school dances where Bohemian Rhapsody would come on, and nobody would do anything but stand around waiting for the part where they got to headbang, and then they headbanged until it slowed down again?

  72. Darren Says:

    Queen is leading Radiohead. That’s pretty shocking.

    Hendrix over Stevie seems about right. I hate to point this out, but after this match there will be exactly one black artist in the sweet 16.

    Bowie’s beating Smashing Pumpkins, but not by nearly enough

    Depeche Mode vs. Beastie Boys - I’m pretty ambivalent about either and I don’t think either will or should beat Bowie next round, so it doesn’t really matter who wins.

    The Beatles face their first real competition against RHCP. By real, I mean they don’t appear to be headed to an 80% plus vote total.

    The Cure vs. Pearl Jam is going to be one of the closest matches this round. I prefer Pearl Jam myself, but neither band has a prayer against the Beatles.

    Nirvana and the Rolling Stones are cruising towards their sweet 16 match-up in the bracket from hell with wins over the Beach Boys and Lennon.

    Zeppelin’s pounding Metallica in the “Best of the 70s” vs. “Best of the 80s” metal match.

    Johnny Cash is appropriately whupping Weezer’s whiny asses.

    The Who out classic-rock’s GNR.

    Clapton’s over-rated solo career is reaching the end of it’s run in this tourney at the hands of U2.

    Pink Floyd vs. REM… close match, but it looks like psych. rock is beating out indie.

    The Ramones are beating AFI… for now. Hopefully this will stay that way and the AFI fans will go out of the tournament with some dignity rather than continuing to use this site as a means of justifying their own super-fan status.

    The Doors… The Police… Dire Straits… The Dave Matthews Band… One of these four bands will be in the elite 8 in this tournament. What the fuck happened? Talk about your upset central situations here, as the seeded favorites were Bob Dylan and Oasis. I prefer the Doors and DMB myself, but neither should be winning at this stage.

  73. homesickalien Says:

    Queen’s music is entirely overrated and extremely dated. If it were not for Freddy’s showmanship, I am sure that they would not even be in this Round. Wasn’t this supposed to be about the music? OK Computer is the greatest album made in the modern rock era, period. From Pablo Honey to Hail to the Thief, they have experimented with completely different sounds, but have managed to still put out dynamically amazing music. In the end, every Radiohead album still frequents my listening rotation, and I have yet to hear a Queen album played in its entirity by anyone that I know as a form of enjoyment. (Although I am quite fond of hearing portions of a Queen song at a Hockey game.)

    The Smashing Pumpkins are up against a juggernaut in Bowie. I do have much more respect for Bowie as an artist, but Gish, Siamese Dream, and MCIS make it to my stereo much more often. Much, much more.

  74. inverse Says:

    Radiohead vs. Queen: This was hard, not because I’m obsessed with either, but because I immensely respect both. I voted for Radiohead but I’m still not sure whether I’m okay with that.

    Jimi Hendrix vs Stevie Wonder: Hendrix

    David Bowie vs. Smashing Pumpkins: Bowie, although, in honor of one of my best friends, it was kind of difficult to choose.

    Depeche Mode vs. Beastie Boys: Depeche Mode. I respect the Beastie Boys but, Depeche is one of my favorite bands.

    Beatles vs. Red Hot Chili Peppers: It was strange how difficult this match up was for me. And, I swear, I don’t even remember whom I ended up voting for…

    The Cure vs. Pearl Jam: The Cure. Definitely.

    Nirvana vs. Beach Boys: I voted Nirvana because, for some inexplicable reason, the Beach Boys annoy me.

    Rolling Stones vs. John Lennon (solo): Lennon. Never was a Stones fan.

    Led Zeppelin vs. Metallica: Zeppelin. Not into ‘heavy’ metal. And Zeppelin is responsible for the song ‘Dazed and Confused’.

    Johnny Cash vs. Weezer: Another one that was strangely difficult. I’m pretty sure I ended up voting for Weezer because of ‘The Sweater Song’.

    The Who vs. Guns’n’Roses: GnR because they are the exception to my ‘no metal’ sensibilities.

    U2 vs. Eric Clapton: Clapton. And if I could get passed Bono’s douchiness I might like the music more.

    Pink Floyd vs. REM: Yet, again, another strangely difficult one. I think I ended up voting for Pink Floyd because I am so apathetic about REM.

    Ramones vs. AFI: This time, my vote for AFI has less to do with the fact that I’m a fan, and more to do with the fact that I believe The Ramones are incredibly overrated. This doesn’t mean I don’t think they made an impact on music nor do I think they don’t deserve some credit. I DO think, however, they are worshipped by a lot of kids for the wrong reasons. And, this results in my misdirected contempt for the band… and their t-shirts.

    The Doors vs. The Police: As bitter as I am that The Police knocked Prince out of the competition, I still like them enough to vote for them now. And, no, not because of Puff Daddy. At all.

    Dire Straits vs. Dave Matthews Band: Not a fan of either. Only one in which I didn’t vote.

  75. hayley Says:

    i’m pretty sure my intense dislike for AFI wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad had I not been forced to listen to them for 9 hours a day for weeks on end at an ear splitting volume while all the scene kids in their polka dots and side swept hair talked about how “alexisonfire really rocks” and then saying “the song they are playing really sucks” meanwhile it was dallas green.

    gah.

  76. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Nate Kushner said:

    So who here has listened to a Queen album ever?

    Follow-up question: Who here has listened to a Queen album in a year that was not 1992?

    Night at the Opera

  77. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Radiohead’s music is entirely overrated and extremely difficult to stand. If it were not for the band’s indie credibility, I am sure that they would not even be in this Round. Wasn’t this supposed to be about the music? OK Computer is an unintelligable mess, period. From Pablo Honey to Hail to the Thief, they have experimented with completely different sounds, and have managed to put out dynamically about seven different ways of making their listeners stab themselves in the ears. In the end, every Radiohead album still frequents my trash compactor. (Although I am quite fond of hearing portions of a Radiohead song at a “Mom and Pop” record store.)

    See what I did there? That’s what can happen when you spend 10 minutes writing a paragraph about NOTHING.

    Let me give you a crash course in boiling an idea down to its essence:

    My band is great. Your band sucks. None of my friends listen to your band, therefore they suck. I like hockey.

  78. Cubicle Captive Says:

    homesickalien said:

    Queen’s music is entirely overrated and extremely dated. If it were not for Freddy’s showmanship, I am sure that they would not even be in this Round. Wasn’t this supposed to be about the music? OK Computer is the greatest album made in the modern rock era, period. From Pablo Honey to Hail to the Thief, they have experimented with completely different sounds, but have managed to still put out dynamically amazing music. In the end, every Radiohead album still frequents my listening rotation, and I have yet to hear a Queen album played in its entirity by anyone that I know as a form of enjoyment. (Although I am quite fond of hearing portions of a Queen song at a Hockey game.)

    The Smashing Pumpkins are up against a juggernaut in Bowie. I do have much more respect for Bowie as an artist, but Gish, Siamese Dream, and MCIS make it to my stereo much more often. Much, much more.

    Crap. Here was the original quote, for the people wondering what the hell I’m talking about.

  79. homesickalien Says:

    Thank you for the “crash course” Cubicle, but my comments would never be so immaturely narrow-minded as your final statement. I do find humour in your pathetic attempt at associative properties, though. I respect others’ band preference and would not stoop to saying that they suck. This is everyone’s opinions on this board, and opinions only.

    But, if you want a be a smart-ass by regurgitating my comments and showing your insecurities about your band, be my guest. I was unaware that they had cubicles at Elementary Schools. Cute.

  80. hayley Says:

    oh man. this could get good.

  81. wilcofan Says:

    Get your tickets to the Cubicle Captive-homesickalien cage fight! 15 dollars. That’s right, $15! For five dollars more you get all the beer you want. The cage fight to end all cage fights is here!

  82. Dan H. Says:

    Cubicle Captive and Homesickalien, would either of you say that the other one is a “fag,” perchance? Please?

  83. Veoki Says:

    Maybe I’m just not a fan of most grunge per say, but I don’t see what’s so great about Pearl Jam.

  84. Veoki Says:

    Also, halfway up the page, did someone defend PETA by giving a big list of celebrities who support them? That’s some sound logic. :/

  85. Veoki Says:

    hayley said:

    i’m pretty sure my intense dislike for AFI wouldn’t be anywhere near as bad had I not been forced to listen to them for 9 hours a day for weeks on end at an ear splitting volume while all the scene kids in their polka dots and side swept hair talked about how “alexisonfire really rocks” and then saying “the song they are playing really sucks” meanwhile it was dallas green.

    gah.

    Dear sweet lord, what layer of hell was that?

  86. Cubicle Captive Says:

    homesickalien said:

    Thank you for the “crash course” Cubicle, but my comments would never be so immaturely narrow-minded as your final statement. I do find humour in your pathetic attempt at associative properties, though. I respect others’ band preference and would not stoop to saying that they suck. This is everyone’s opinions on this board, and opinions only.

    But, if you want a be a smart-ass by regurgitating my comments and showing your insecurities about your band, be my guest. I was unaware that they had cubicles at Elementary Schools. Cute.

    Don’t beat yourself up som much, I think your comments are plenty narrow-minded. Completely dismissal of something for no apparent reason other than random negative adjectives is the very definition of “narrow-minded.” You don’t like Queen, your friends don’t like Queen, so therefore they are inferior to Radiohead. Doesn’t sound like the enlightened individual your post’s vocabulary is trying to portray.

    It sounds like the ramblings of someone who’s pissed their band is losing and is showing THEIR insecurity. Also, you’ll notice I didn’t say a single word about you or your friends, just your subject and your writing style.

    Want to know why? Because I don’t know you, and I’ll probably never meet you. But more importantly than that, I didn’t write anything about you:

    Because I don’t care about you.

    So keep slinging your insults and try to be as witty as possible. The other people on the site always enjoy wittiness. But if you think that I’m going to sink to your level, it’s not going to happen.

    I did like the bit about cubicles in Elementary Schools. It’s like the glimmer of a lighter in the vast chasm of your intellect. Kind of bright, but ultimately pointless.

  87. wilcofan Says:

    Veoki said:

    Also, halfway up the page, did someone defend PETA by giving a big list of celebrities who support them? That’s some sound logic. :/

    No you read it wrong. They listed a bunch of “Musicians” to prove their point. Totally different.

  88. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Dan H. said:

    Cubicle Captive and Homesickalien, would either of you say that the other one is a “fag,” perchance? Please?

    Okay, Fine. Homesickalien: you sir, are a fag.

    Happy now?

  89. inverse Says:

    Cubicle Captive said:

    Radiohead’s music is entirely overrated and extremely difficult to stand. If it were not for the band’s indie credibility, I am sure that they would not even be in this Round. Wasn’t this supposed to be about the music? OK Computer is an unintelligable mess, period. From Pablo Honey to Hail to the Thief, they have experimented with completely different sounds, and have managed to put out dynamically about seven different ways of making their listeners stab themselves in the ears. In the end, every Radiohead album still frequents my trash compactor. (Although I am quite fond of hearing portions of a Radiohead song at a “Mom and Pop” record store.)

    See what I did there? That’s what can happen when you spend 10 minutes writing a paragraph about NOTHING.

    Let me give you a crash course in boiling an idea down to its essence:

    My band is great. Your band sucks. None of my friends listen to your band, therefore they suck. I like hockey.

    I’d like to be the semi-objective rebuttal to this (specifically the first 3 sentences). Ahem-

    I went almost 5 years convincing myself that there was nothing incredible about Radiohead other than their legions of haughty fans. Many of my friends were(are) fans of Radiohead and I refused to be sucked into the mind-warp they all seemed hypnotized by. I would admit they weren’t horrible but that is about all I would ever concede.

    After this 5 year period, I began to wear down. I couldn’t deny that the soundscapes Radiohead create ARE hypnotizing but in the right way. I’ve stopped denying that their fans aren’t completely full of bullshit and that, despite the pretention surrounding the band, I like them.

    I guess my point is: not everyone who likes Radiohead was eager to do so in hopes of more ‘indie cred’. I resisted it adamantly. I ended up admitting defeat and became something of a fan.

    [I’m NOT saying non-Radiohead fans are in denial. Just that not all are pseudo-intellectual, indie-whore, pretentious twats. …And that, I think their presense in this competition is not a fluke.]

  90. socal Says:

    I continue to be baffled by the affinity and “respect” for Queen.

    Their music is like a bad Las Vegas musical: Over the top yet shallow, flashy yet superficial.

    Freddy was a good showman and May could play a lot of notes, but I just don’t get it at all. No, I take that back - I got “it” when I was in high school, but by the time college rolled around, I got “over it”.

    Ah, but what else should I expect from a competition where the Doors beat Bob Dylan?

  91. yardang Says:

    i had no idea how much queen hatred there was out there! i guess i shouldn’t make such a narrow statement… there just seems to be a preponderance of people saying that the more “legendary” band in whatever matchup is overrated. as far as the statement about being at a school dance and hearing bohemian rhapsody… oh yeah, i’ve wittnessed it. hell, truth be told, i probably participated at one point or another. i saw the same thing when they’d play stairway to heaven - people slow dance in the beginning and then walk off the dance floor when it sped up. so i don’t think it really has anything to do with being overrated.
    in the queen/radiohead matchup - i like both bands, i own albums from both of them; but put my favorite queen songs up against my favorite radiohead songs, and it’s queen no contest.

  92. Cubicle Captive Says:

    inverse said:

    Cubicle Captive said:

    Radiohead’s music is entirely overrated and extremely difficult to stand. If it were not for the band’s indie credibility, I am sure that they would not even be in this Round. Wasn’t this supposed to be about the music? OK Computer is an unintelligable mess, period. From Pablo Honey to Hail to the Thief, they have experimented with completely different sounds, and have managed to put out dynamically about seven different ways of making their listeners stab themselves in the ears. In the end, every Radiohead album still frequents my trash compactor. (Although I am quite fond of hearing portions of a Radiohead song at a “Mom and Pop” record store.)

    See what I did there? That’s what can happen when you spend 10 minutes writing a paragraph about NOTHING.

    Let me give you a crash course in boiling an idea down to its essence:

    My band is great. Your band sucks. None of my friends listen to your band, therefore they suck. I like hockey.

    I’d like to be the semi-objective rebuttal to this (specifically the first 3 sentences). Ahem-

    I went almost 5 years convincing myself that there was nothing incredible about Radiohead other than their legions of haughty fans. Many of my friends were(are) fans of Radiohead and I refused to be sucked into the mind-warp they all seemed hypnotized by. I would admit they weren’t horrible but that is about all I would ever concede.

    After this 5 year period, I began to wear down. I couldn’t deny that the soundscapes Radiohead create ARE hypnotizing but in the right way. I’ve stopped denying that their fans aren’t completely full of bullshit and that, despite the pretention surrounding the band, I like them.

    I guess my point is: not everyone who likes Radiohead was eager to do so in hopes of more ‘indie cred’. I resisted it adamantly. I ended up admitting defeat and became something of a fan.

    [I’m NOT saying non-Radiohead fans are in denial. Just that not all are pseudo-intellectual, indie-whore, pretentious twats. …And that, I think their presense in this competition is not a fluke.]

    I was only pointing out that slagging a band is pointless and conceited, by swapping Queen and Radiohead in his paragraph. Personally, I don’t like Radiohead but I can see how they are still in the tournament. Thom & Co. music isn’t really my thing, but there are a few songs I like.

  93. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Is there any way to determine ahead of time when the box will show up on a quote or not?

  94. wilcofan Says:

    I think it justs boxes the first quote.

  95. inverse Says:

    Yeah, I’d like to officially put in my complaint about the quoting system on this board. It sucks. Maybe next year the mods could rework them so that you can edit quotes (so you don’t have to include EVERYTHING the person said, and can isolate sentences, etc.) And, also, so you can quote multiple people in one post and it actually differentiates quote vs. response. Just an idea.

  96. Dan H. Says:

    Socal, The Doors beating Bob Dylan was not only upsetting, it was an extremely strange outcome considering The Doors’ relative weakness in last year’s tournament and the fact that Dylan overcame Phish in Round 3 when they had thousands of hits pouring in from their fansites. The only explanation would be that Phish fans returned and voted against Dylan out of revenge, or than AFI fans had sniffed out the threat from Phish and voted for Dylan the round before, or that thousands of Dylan fans instantly disappeared or got stupider in a week.

    I agree with the Queen point, too - no one really dislikes Queen, but I have never in my life listened through a Queen album, and the sort of knee-jerk, name recognition reverence that has made Johnny Cash and Jimi Hendrix so difficult to beat in these tournaments also seems to be weirdly bolstering Queen’s case against a threatningly non-classic-rock band. It’s probably time for Radiohead fans to start hitting up the fansites.

  97. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Dan H. said:

    Socal, The Doors beating Bob Dylan was not only upsetting, it was an extremely strange outcome considering The Doors’ relative weakness in last year’s tournament and the fact that Dylan overcame Phish in Round 3 when they had thousands of hits pouring in from their fansites. The only explanation would be that Phish fans returned and voted against Dylan out of revenge, or than AFI fans had sniffed out the threat from Phish and voted for Dylan the round before, or that thousands of Dylan fans instantly disappeared or got stupider in a week.

    I agree with the Queen point, too - no one really dislikes Queen, but I have never in my life listened through a Queen album, and the sort of knee-jerk, name recognition reverence that has made Johnny Cash and Jimi Hendrix so difficult to beat in these tournaments also seems to be weirdly bolstering Queen’s case against a threatningly non-classic-rock band. It’s probably time for Radiohead fans to start hitting up the fansites.

    Or the Queen fans to hit up their fansites. Cement the lead a bit.

    Good idea.

  98. socal Says:

    Dan H. said:

    Socal, The Doors beating Bob Dylan was not only upsetting, it was an extremely strange outcome considering The Doors’ relative weakness in last year’s tournament and the fact that Dylan overcame Phish in Round 3 when they had thousands of hits pouring in from their fansites. The only explanation would be that Phish fans returned and voted against Dylan out of revenge, or than AFI fans had sniffed out the threat from Phish and voted for Dylan the round before, or that thousands of Dylan fans instantly disappeared or got stupider in a week.

    I agree with the Queen point, too - no one really dislikes Queen, but I have never in my life listened through a Queen album, and the sort of knee-jerk, name recognition reverence that has made Johnny Cash and Jimi Hendrix so difficult to beat in these tournaments also seems to be weirdly bolstering Queen’s case against a threatningly non-classic-rock band. It’s probably time for Radiohead fans to start hitting up the fansites.

    ________

    I’ve said it before, I really dislike Queen.

  99. Cubicle Captive Says:

    socal said:

    Dan H. said:

    Socal, The Doors beating Bob Dylan was not only upsetting, it was an extremely strange outcome considering The Doors’ relative weakness in last year’s tournament and the fact that Dylan overcame Phish in Round 3 when they had thousands of hits pouring in from their fansites. The only explanation would be that Phish fans returned and voted against Dylan out of revenge, or than AFI fans had sniffed out the threat from Phish and voted for Dylan the round before, or that thousands of Dylan fans instantly disappeared or got stupider in a week.

    I agree with the Queen point, too - no one really dislikes Queen, but I have never in my life listened through a Queen album, and the sort of knee-jerk, name recognition reverence that has made Johnny Cash and Jimi Hendrix so difficult to beat in these tournaments also seems to be weirdly bolstering Queen’s case against a threatningly non-classic-rock band. It’s probably time for Radiohead fans to start hitting up the fansites.

    ________

    I’ve said it before, I really dislike Queen.

    Somewhere, the corpse of Freddie Mercury is crying.

    IT IS CREEPY AS HELL.

  100. yayfi Says:

    you mean his ashes? I think his creepy ex-girlfriend has them in a shrine in her basement. She’s still bitter that he was gay.

  101. yayfi Says:

    oh, and I’ve seen the quoting of only parts of someone’s post before. I just can’t figure out how to do it.

  102. Cubicle Captive Says:

    yayfi said:

    you mean his ashes? I think his creepy ex-girlfriend has them in a shrine in her basement. She’s still bitter that he was gay.

    Well, hell. That might even be creepier. Crying ashes?

  103. Zach Says:

    Last year’s American Idol had a “Queen” episode, which was used to promote a greatest hits album, which lots and lots of people bought. Many of the people who bought this album became aware that songs they have heard on various radio stations for many years were by Queen. This has upped their recognition level greatly. I expect something similar to happen with Rush some day.

  104. Nate Kushner Says:

    How about Neil Peart as himself in the Aqua teen movie?

  105. Zach Says:

    I haven’t seen it yet. Is he any good?

  106. Nate Kushner Says:

    He does the second best drumming in that movie.

  107. Cubicle Captive Says:

    Nate Kushner said:

    He does the second best drumming in that movie.

    “DON’T TALK!! WATCH!
    DON”T TALK!! WATCH!”

    Best part of the movie. Too bad it’s right at the beginning.

  108. Nate Kushner Says:

    Yeah, everybody, the verdict on that movie is that it’s worth a rental, and it probably should have gone straight to video.

    It’s funny, and it has a lot of funny parts, but it’s just not enough funny per minute to justify a new york movie ticket price.

    Maybe maybe maybe it’s worth a $7 ticket from anywhere else in the country plus however much it costs to get you high.

  109. tarotraven Says:

    wilcofan said:

    Veoki said:

    Also, halfway up the page, did someone defend PETA by giving a big list of celebrities who support them? That’s some sound logic. :/

    No you read it wrong. They listed a bunch of “Musicians” to prove their point. Totally different.

    I think you need to read the post more carefully. I tried to back up all my statements on Bono, Al Gore, and PETA, in a brief manner. The point of listing the musicians was to support the statement that said that PETA2 tries to appeal to college and high school students, and they do use those bands to do so. Let’s face it sometimes if your favorite band supports something, you may check it out based on that. Not saying that people don’t have a mind of their own…but they may at least read up on it and then decide based on what they believe. I do think it’s interesting though that so many amazing bands support animal rights (and being an animal rights activist, that makes me happy). To say that PETA spends ALL it’s time supporting the ALF is absurd. PETA’s slogan is “animals are not ours to eat, wear,
    experiment on, or use for entertainment.”
    NOTHING in this world is all good or all bad…there are many shades of grey.

  110. homesickalien Says:

    Cubicle Captive said:

    Dan H. said:

    Cubicle Captive and Homesickalien, would either of you say that the other one is a “fag,” perchance? Please?

    Okay, Fine. Homesickalien: you sir, are a fag.

    Happy now?

    *** homesickalien’s comments start here ***

    Cubicle, I don’t think my comments were narrow minded at all. I think Queen is overrated; never did I say that “they suck”. That would be narrow-minded, and that is what I meant. Never said either was inferior to the other either, merely stated my opinion of things. That said, I was using my “wit” as you call it, only to reply back to your “wit” at mocking my opinion by regurgitating it. And by the way, I could care less whether Radiohead wins on here or not. I do like a good banter though…

    Also, assuming that I am a “sir” is kinda narrow-minded, don’t you think?

  111. vegetable man Says:

    The last thread didn’t like me very much, it swallowed up two or three posts I tried to make and I gave up. We’ll see if this one is more friendly.

    Radiohead vs. Cream: Definitely a Radiohead vote. I don’t really see them as an experimental band but they’re not really derivative either. Ok Computer is a really great album. Queen is one of those bands that everyone knows, when they come on the radio I’ll hum along perhaps, but I’ve never popped them into the Cd tray.

    Jimi Hendrix vs. Stevie Wonder: I feel phony, because I voted for Hendrix although I havn’t really listened to him since junior high. I also listened to the Doors back then, who I now can’t stand. Hendrix is one of those “legends” no one really ever questions. I’ll make up for it by listening to some 70’s Wonder. I’m not familiar enough with his work.

    David Bowie vs. Smashing Pumpkins: Easy one. Ziggy Stardust knocks Uncle Fester out without breaking a sweat.

    Depeche Mode vs. Beastie Boys: Depeche Mode. This is one of the more perfect contests in that in pits two 80’s and continuing on into the 90’s bands against eachother. This one was really easy.

    Beatles.

    The Cure vs. Pearl Jam: I’m just getting back into the Cure after a ten year hiatus. I have to say alot of it is pretty good. The earlier the better, but that’s almost always the case. Pearl Jam is one of those Beh bands. Beh is the sound indifference makes when it is forced through your lungs.

    Nirvana vs. Beach Boys: Do I have to choose! Because I don’t really care.

    Rolling Stones vs. Lennon: They killed Brian Jones. Or they didnt, I don’t know. I prefer Lennon in this case. Imagine that. Hur.

    Led Zep over the Metallica. Easy choice for me. In that I listen to one sometimes and not the other. The Zepplelin that is built from Led.

    Cash vs. Weezer: Johnny Cash vote here.

    The Who vs. Guns and Roses: I had Appetite for Destruction when it was new and I was in eigth grade and liked it. I dont like it anymore. The Who.

    U2 vs. Eric Clapton: U2. When I was in college and my car only had a radio everytime that “look into my fathers eye’s” song would come on I would be forced to puke into the glove box. Just for that I’ll pick U2. They had some good songs back in the early days. And yeah Bono is a sanctimonious XXXX. But no one is perfect.

    Pink Floyd vs. Rem: I’m assuming this includes the Syd Barrett album, or it might be a tough choice. I have a bike you can ride it if you like. A Song for the Ages.

    The Ramones vs. Afi: The Ramones aren’t the pinicle of American 70’s rock but they seem to be the last representatives in this contest. I think, say, Television, or even Blondie was more interesting. But they do indeed get my vote.

    The Doors vs. The Police: I used to sort of like the doors when I was 15, but now I detest them. It just happened! And Sting is Still the King of Pain.

    Dire Straits vs. Dave Matthews Band: Beh.

  112. Veoki Says:

    tarotraven said:

    wilcofan said:

    Veoki said:

    Also, halfway up the page, did someone defend PETA by giving a big list of celebrities who support them? That’s some sound logic. :/

    No you read it wrong. They listed a bunch of “Musicians” to prove their point. Totally different.

    I think you need to read the post more carefully. I tried to back up all my statements on Bono, Al Gore, and PETA, in a brief manner. The point of listing the musicians was to support the statement that said that PETA2 tries to appeal to college and high school students, and they do use those bands to do so. Let’s face it sometimes if your favorite band supports something, you may check it out based on that. Not saying that people don’t have a mind of their own…but they may at least read up on it and then decide based on what they believe. I do think it’s interesting though that so many amazing bands support animal rights (and being an animal rights activist, that makes me happy). To say that PETA spends ALL it’s time supporting the ALF is absurd. PETA’s slogan is “animals are not ours to eat, wear,
    experiment on, or use for entertainment.”
    NOTHING in this world is all good or all bad…there are many shades of grey.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY

  113. Nate Kushner Says:

    Penn and Teller are bullshit. They ain’t really magical.

  114. yardang Says:

    i love penn and teller and i love you for posting that video!

  115. Nate Kushner Says:

    yardang said:

    i love penn and teller and i love you for posting that video!

    Right, but you have to admit that there’s some amount of trickery in what they do. They probably do it at least partially by palming things.

  116. hayley Says:

    tarotravern, do you have any responses to my previous responses?

    and you misread me GREATLY regarding my statement about PETA and the ALF. I never said all they DO is support them, I said all they do is support them, in the sense that I would be more impressed if they were more open instead of covert cash transactions with Coronado.

    I myself fully support the ALF.

  117. hayley Says:

    PETA is nothing more than utilitarian welfarist garbage that does NOTHING FOR THE MOVEMENT WHATSOEVER.

    What they do is eroticize another cause in order to promote their singular cause.

    That is never necessary.

    What they do is promote Singer, whose ideologies could bring the entire movement to its goddamn knees.

    What they do is take good people’s money and then award utilitarians while spewing that they are, indeed, Rightists.

  118. nin4eva Says:

    So let me recap what’s been going on:

    Bono = Bad
    Al Gore = Bad
    Chris Martin = Homosexual
    PETA = Bad
    PETA2 = Good
    Politics = Bad
    Queen = Bad
    Cube Captive v. homesickalien = Semi-interesting flame war, but not quite up to standard Bandmadness potential of fucktard/douchebaggery.

    Over all, I partied too much this weekend and need to go sleep it off. Wake me when something more interesting happens.

  119. yardang Says:

    Nate Kushner said:

    yardang said:

    i love penn and teller and i love you for posting that video!

    Right, but you have to admit that there’s some amount of trickery in what they do. They probably do it at least partially by palming things.

    lol
    palming things… it’s always the quiet ones.

  120. yardang Says:

    and to follow up, don’t we all?

  121. pourthepoison Says:

    my choices:

    queen- no contest
    i forgot what i put, oops.
    I’m pretty sure i went with smashing pumpkins
    Depeche Mode, fersure.
    Red hot chili peppers.
    the cure, of course.
    nirvana
    John Lennon.
    Led Zeppelin
    Johnny Cash
    Guns n’ roses.
    U2
    Pink Floyd
    AFI, once again, no contest.
    the doors and the police, wow. that’s tough, i think i went with the police.
    Dire straits.

  122. Zach Says:

    I support the use of animals in any way to bring humans money and pleasure.

  123. Darren Says:

    400 extra votes in AFI vs. The Ramones, which AFI is winning by 40 votes.

    Subtle.

  124. Darren Says:

    Zach - I can’t say I feel comfortable with you using animals for pleasure. Very disturbing.

  125. Nate Kushner Says:

    Yeah, I’m not going to say AFI fans are dicks. That would be racist.

    But there are 400 AFI fans who are big stupid dicks.

  126. Nate Kushner Says:

    http://bandmadness.net/blog/band_sadness_round_two_the_effete_eight/

    Hey, everybody, the current round of Band Sadness closes around midnight tonight, and there’s still some matchups that are close enough to have their outcomes changed.

    It’s Band Sadness, like Bandmadness, but we’re trying to find out which band is sadder.

  127. thebaron Says:

    The only brothers left: Hendrix and Boyd Tinsley. Says something about the site’s demos.

  128. hayley Says:

    thebaron said:

    The only brothers left: Hendrix and Boyd Tinsley. Says something about the site’s demos.

    what?

  129. Darren Says:

    Boyd Tinsley is the violin player for the Dave Matthews Band.

    Stevie Wonder is black…

  130. Chris Coleman Says:

    I guess AFI finally decided to show up.

  131. trey2254 Says:

    Darren said:

    Boyd Tinsley is the violin player for the Dave Matthews Band.

    Stevie Wonder is black…

    If I am not mistaken I think The Dave Matthews Band is 3/5 black

  132. bryguy3050 Says:

    haha yeah last time i checked

  133. wylinwayln433 Says:

    You haters….Not all AFI fans are scene kids nor are they in high school. They have got 7 full length albums and a ton of other eps, and they tour like crazy. Thats how you build a good fanbase by being as devoted to their music as AFI is. What the Fuck is Radiohead,Dave Matthews, and Dire Straits stll doing here. AFI is much more deserving than those bands.

  134. Hirsby Says:

    As much I love the bracket, I think it might be fun for next to do it FA Cup style. Start with 512 bands/musicians, and randomly draw matchups every round. Imagine if it was, like, Beatles vs. Pink Floyd in the first round or something wild.

  135. Nate Kushner Says:

    wylinwayln433 said:

    You haters….Not all AFI fans are scene kids nor are they in high school. They have got 7 full length albums and a ton of other eps, and they tour like crazy. Thats how you build a good fanbase by being as devoted to their music as AFI is. What the Fuck is Radiohead,Dave Matthews, and Dire Straits stll doing here. AFI is much more deserving than those bands.

    All three of those bands you named either used to tour like crazy before breaking up, or they’re still around and still playing lots of show, and they all work real hard on their music, and they all have 6 studio albums and bigger fanbases. Out of all your criteria, the only one on which AFI beats those three bands is by having 7 albums instead of 6 (and even that’s irrelevant if you decide to count the numerous official live recordings that each of those bands have), so you’ll need to keep talking if you want to convince us that AFI belong “much more” than those three bands.

    They’re still here because more people like them, and like them better. Maybe one day AFI will get to that place of honor that those three bands have (I can’t tell the future, it could happen), but for now, it doesn’t make any sense for you to go confusing “AFI are #1 in your heart” with “AFI are #1 in the hearts of all that hear them and every other band doesn’t deserve a thought.”

    I mean, I’m happy for AFI and their handful of gold and platinum and double platinum records they have. I do think they work hard for them. And maybe Dave Matthews and Dire Straits and Radiohead are not your sort of tunes. But a band that sells 20 some million, a band that sells 118 million, and a band that usually goes multiplatinum, and never goes less than gold (respectively), are worth more than the dismissiveness you’re putting out right now.

    Notice I didn’t put down AFI one bit in this post. (I maybe might have been ribbing you, though.)

  136. whit Says:

    wylinwayln433 said:

    You haters….Not all AFI fans are scene kids nor are they in high school. They have got 7 full length albums and a ton of other eps, and they tour like crazy. Thats how you build a good fanbase by being as devoted to their music as AFI is. What the Fuck is Radiohead,Dave Matthews, and Dire Straits stll doing here. AFI is much more deserving than those bands.

    what are you trying to accomplish by saying this. 12 year olds really shouldnt have internet access.

  137. Darren Says:

    “You haters…” I hate people who use the term “haters”. You complain that we don’t take you seriously, and then you say things like that which scream “mock me”? Also, calling out Radiohead as a band that shouldn’t be in the final 32? Not a good way to build credibility.

  138. Veoki Says:

    wylinwayln433 said:

    You haters….Not all AFI fans are scene kids nor are they in high school. They have got 7 full length albums and a ton of other eps, and they tour like crazy. Thats how you build a good fanbase by being as devoted to their music as AFI is. What the Fuck is Radiohead,Dave Matthews, and Dire Straits stll doing here. AFI is much more deserving than those bands.

    Before posting, everyone should be required to:
    1. Have a snack, a nap, and fingerpainting time before Teacher lets them use the computer box, and

    2. Realize that AFI’s awesomeness doesn’t make other bands any less deserving of being in the contest.

  139. tarotraven Says: